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TMF 015 - Me Sora Tha

Saqib Tahir Episode 15

Open AI teased Sora - which led many to wonder if the age of video production using a camera is over. In this week’s episode of Tech Made Fun we go over why you should not sleep on Sora, why startups in Pakistan are kinda bound to fail, is Samsung ripping you off, and EU giving some love to messaging apps.

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Main Topic Highlights:
OpenAI introduces Sora, its text-to-video AI model
OpenAI teases an amazing new generative video model called Sora
Realism of OpenAI’s Sora video generator raises security concerns
App link: https://openai.com/sora
Dead Internet theory

"This could be the 'holy shit' moment of AI,"Tom Warren of The Verge

Following are references for you to read:|
Turkish fintech unicorn Papara set to acquire SadaPay in possible
Framework Laptop 16: our exclusive hands-on
Framework Laptop 16 Review
Review: Framework’s Laptop 16 is unique, laudable, fascinating, and flawed
WhatsApp will soon let you chat with other messaging apps – here's how the company says it'll work
WhatsApp Chats Will Soon Work With Other Encrypted Messaging Apps
Our unbiased take on Mark Zuckerberg’s biased Apple Vision Pro review
After trying the Vision Pro, Mark Zuckerberg says Quest 3 ‘is the better product, period’

“I don’t just think that Quest is the better value, I think Quest is the better product, period.” - Mark Zuckerberg
Samsung in Pakistan
Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra, S24+ and S24 hands-on review
Samsung’s fancy new Galaxy AI features might not be free forever

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Welcome to Tech Made Fun, where we are trying to make weekly episodes. But it might be difficult. So as everyone should know, that the news cycle gets cold in the first 3-4 months of the year. So there is no interesting news weekly, week to week. But surprisingly, almost a week ago, OpenAI, which has been running in the news for the past 1.5 years, and I am honestly a little tired, they released something called Sora. What is Sora? So Sora means... in Japanese or something, a very common term. But basically, when this chat GPT came, I'll give you a little bit of a basic background. Chat GPT is based on the Transformer model. And what it means in a summary, or if you want to put it simply, it's a very advanced Google search that predicts your next word very well. So how GPT works basically is that whenever you ask something, like, tell me what's the pizza recipe. So, while doing statistical analysis, he knows that here we have to write pizza, and then we have to write can, be, made. So he is running statistical analysis on every word and by doing a lot of computations, he is looking at his train data and thinking that this should be the next word for this, and so on and so forth. A token system was built, that how heavy is a prompt, and its answer is given in text. That's very basically how transformer models work. This is the 2017-18 technology which came into the chat GPT 3.5 as it was improving and then a year ago you would know that it has spread everywhere. At the very same time, there is another technology which is called diffusion technology. Basically, stable diffusion was an open source model, correct me if I'm wrong. But what it did is, just like the transformer model does in the next world, The diffusion model was used to help in image generation. If you have ever heard of mid-generation or open AI, there is image generation and stable diffusion. I think unstable diffusion is also something. So what happens in that is that you put a picture of dog. So what it does is that it will run an analysis on instead of words this time, it will be on images and it will try to merge them, slowly diffuse them, thousands, tens of thousands, twenty thousand images from its training data. until and unless it looks something like what it knows to be a dog, right? It's video representation is easier to watch if you can just google how stable diffusion or how image generation diffusion works. So now we will see how an image is morphed and formed in your final output. Now there were a lot of challenges in both. So in the number one transformer, there is a challenge that it can't do maths or arithmetic. Very good, right? In the beginning, 2 plus 2 was giving answer 5. He was giving me a made up answer. Because it's just predicting the next word. It's not doing any actual calculation. Now obviously it has improved a lot. I'm talking about the old one. And the biggest issue with stable diffusion was that it captured images of things and things. But when once you look closely at anything, it would be very wrong, right? Like there are 6 fingers on the hand. instead of two legs, there are six legs. These legs are merging if a group of people's photo is generated. Or if the text is in any photo, it's completely opposite because it doesn't understand what language is, right? It's just doing an analysis on thousands of images and merging them. So yeah, these were the two models. It was important to explain the INC because for the first time ever, maybe not the first time ever, but the first time ever, which has become popular and viral, OpenAI is releasing Sora. This is a video. generating, it combines the transformer and the diffusion model. So basically you can be like, I create a short video of 10 people walking. The which will be helped the diffusion model come up with a very good image. And yeah, this is what Sora does is get started. Point. Now instead of morphing a lot of images into creating one image, it is morphing 10,000 images per frame and it's making a video of it. And that's why it's so impressive because all the AI generation videos that have come so far, a video of Will Smith got viral. Just google Will Smith eating spaghetti AI generated. And you can see the spaghetti coming out of his mouth and hands. Because... they were very bad at generating the next frame. So they were just stitching together a weird thing that made no sense. So now SORA has done very impressively, that it is a consistent model that is maintaining the frame by frame consistency. And if you go to the website right now, they have like demo videos and everything. And there are issues in that. Yeah, like you first do one thing, go to OpenSORA's website, OpenAI SORA, and there, what they say, see all the demos that are shown in the video. And then look at them carefully once. And you'll notice a lot of inconsistencies, which is fine. It's got the first version, it's not even for public release, it's with Red Teamers. But what is the most impressive thing is there is this one video in which a girl is walking and there is a sign board in the background. And now this is what is impressive. The symbol on that sign board, that stays the same symbol when she walks in front of it. And this is the same thing that... a little bit of a non-technical person, what's special about this? The special thing about this is that when the person passed in front of him, his head passed in front of him, even after that, the signboard is largely unchanged. So it kept context that 15-20 frames earlier, here, at this angle, in this lighting, in this direction, this signboard was there. And when the person passed in front of him, the same signboard was there, in the same location, and put it back. And this is very amazing. Like you don't understand like... This is from scratch. It's not like it's any pre-made footage or anything. This is all from scratch. So given all that, it's very impressive technology. That's a different thing. If you haven't noticed in the video, the guy's jacket has completely changed. She's wearing like a leather jacket and later when the camera zooms in and zooms out, she wears a long coat. So just to tell you that in the first attempt, when you look at it, and if you are not told that this is AI generated, you will be easily fooled. No matter how much you think you are a Pannaigna. But obviously once you know it's AI generated and you see such realistic footage, you get really confused like, oh, this scene is so complicated. Given all that, what does it mean for the industry? I think the biggest impact of this open AI SORA model will be to stock footage companies. Right now, if you are in the commercial space and you are not in Pakistan where piracy is alive, You have to buy a lot of stock footage whenever you're making like a YouTube video or any commercial or anything. And there are like so many stock websites that charge a lot of money for stock video. They don't charge that much for images but they charge a lot for videos. So now you can just easily, you know, ask Sora to create you like a 30 second clip that people are walking around in the market. Or show me a Pakistani bazaar. Or show me a guy holding a mobile. And that will just make your video and that will be good enough. to be used within your whatever production you're doing. Right. So this is the main challenge over cause this is not a text or image generation. This is your video generator which has multiple frames and multiple resolution. I think prompt engineering, which we make fun of a lot, prompt engineering. So prompt engineering basically means a person who is very capable of this and how to give prompts to get a good end result from chat GPT. any LLM model, large language model. So I think it will become more and more relevant because when you are making a video, you need to give a very detailed input. The more detailed and relevant you can give, the better the output will be. It is kind of similar to how you can be really good at Googling stuff. Which is a joke. Like some people, they know how to Google something by putting keywords. My PC is bad. So I will be like Windows laptop, Lenovo, Legion, whatever, not working and not powering on, so I will get more relevant information. Whereas someone who might not be like, you know, used to Googling, will write, so I don't know on my laptop and it is not working and it is turning off again and again. So you get the idea. Similarly, in GPD models, maybe LLMs, maybe you will have people who will be really good at getting the output from the input they're making in the thing. So what does it mean for OpenAI? OpenAI has been in a lot of controversies. The biggest one is that they were meant to be, as the name suggests, open source and for the good and now they're clearly working for profit and making a lot of profit. But I think their monopoly will obviously get stronger. And but like all the people's regulators and governments and everyone who's looking at this is like, oh. Now you can generate videos and like this already. But this is officially episode. I'm going to scam me cover. Can I do $25 million? It's all election in the US, right? Uh, Trump elections. Meitni don't agree with you. T.R. On Facebook, pay ads. So on so forth and social media. Do political implications. I'm on car. I'm sure I'm so cool. Both check. Speakers. Yeah, so we don't know. It's bad. All right. Barbar. But America may be. I see a lot of social media. Like, like, both. Kanda impact. What are the. Beco election cycle. Chaltea campaigns. Of our. Chaltea. And now that there is video technology here, there could be serious impact on a lot of things. Because if a person wants to run a slander campaign or an anti-campaign campaign, you pay for it and he will make videos day and night, make shots and put them on YouTube, TikTok, Reels. And slowly, internet is just becoming more and more polluted. And whenever this like AI actually came, this has been, I don't know if this has been discussed a lot or not, but there was this thing called the dead internet theory. So basically, maybe 10 or 15 years ago, there was a theory that the internet is dead. And what that meant is that all the online content you watch, all the text posts you watch, images you watch, videos you watch, they are just some bots sitting and making them. the real person has stopped using the internet for a long time. And you're just interacting with bots. It was just like a satire, I think, or just like a theory. But now that you think about it, chat GPT has already started writing articles from so many websites. Heck, if you open a small publication, half of the things are written from chat GPT. Right? Um, it's happening in images too. It's happening in video too. It's already happening in audio too. Five years down the road, maybe 50% of the internet is AI generated. And then maybe we are heading towards that internet theory after all. But talking about dead things, startup ecosystem in Pakistan. So there is an extra episode that I will be recording. As I promised, I want to experiment with a few different formats about the situation of fintech in Pakistan. And why it's really important and because I myself sometimes work as a freelancer. I have been experiencing a lot of pain for the last one or two years that the pain of being a freelancer here. And on top of that, I just want to talk about like recently news that a Turkish fintech company called Papara was going to acquire Sadape. It's all allegedly, nothing is announced or verified, but that really pains me because I think Sadape had a really good chance to compete at like, you know, a very good level as the next big. Fintech company in Pakistan, but their revenue model never made sense to me. And I am a member of SADA school. I keep talking to a lot of people from SADA. And like a lot of freelancers who use it and a lot of people who I know use it. And my issue has always been that look, the local companies that you have, like Easy Paisa, Jazz Cash, SADA is also local, by local I meant like old local companies. So they have competition with SADA. So this is the scene of Jazz Cash and Easy Paisa. You don't really need their app to use them. Yes, of course, if you have the app, it's free and your account is made and blah, blah. But that's for us, we people who have smartphones, who have computers, who have internet. But if you go to a village, how is easy money and jazz cash running there? The holes that are made there are made by the representatives and they are basically your ATMs where you can withdraw money, transfer money, so on and so forth. And they take money on every transaction. And that is their primary revenue model. That's how EasyPaisa and JazzCash have become these big giants. Because their revenue model is very strong and ingrained. Their network is very bad. So now if something like Sada Pay enters, they don't have a revenue model, right? Because look at it, what they're doing. You're getting an account for free. You're taking a card of Rs.800. And then every transaction is probably getting cut by 1-1.5%. Which is normal for any card transaction. And online charges, so on and so forth. But if you do the maths quickly, you realize, oh, this is not enough money for anyone to sustain a big business. Because of their very good product and their app is really nice. So yeah, like if you do like a rough table napkin math, you can see like, okay, their revenue model is absolutely free. So now how do they increase the revenue model? So they can go and make their own ATM. Not possible because they don't own a telecom company. Inca network will never be this big and it will need a lot of investment to even start as infrastructure. That's why they can't do that. So what did they do? They did the freelancing thing, if you know that there is a subsidiary called SadaBiz. Where freelancers can register and request online international payments, which was very revolutionary. But they didn't do that work for 6 months, then they kind of hid the feature and then they announced it again, Big Bang and opened their own school, education platform for freelancers. And then, then issues started coming up, people's payments are getting stuck every week, dated every week, so on and so forth. Now at the end of the day, I will just say this, it's not that much of a simple mistake, as people think. Yes, they are a company, they're offering the service, so they are liable for this. I understand that point. But the compliance of State Bank here is that... doesn't allow foreign transactions to come directly into your account to my I think thought thinking process. So what my assumption is again, this is an assumption, allegedly, I don't know that they did the same thing that they registered in the UK, in Dubai, and they're using some hanky panky backend where the money is lying outside and then when you need them, they get deposited locally. Similar to how Payoneer works or VICE used to work. But now, the way they have The government said that they want this documentation, that documentation, blah blah. So VICE said, you guys are bothering us so much that we are going to close the Pakistani account. So now VICE doesn't have an account. So now it's not just my fault, the payment that the local accepts, they also ask for a lot of documentation. And now SadaPay, SadaBase, has to do this. Whenever you request payment, now submit this document, now submit the contract, submit your chat history, blah blah. Again, this is not the fault of SadaPay. The state bank needs to update their compliance. I think they should update it up to a certain income. Let's say a hundred K dollars per two, three years or whatever. I don't know. I'm talking about account history. I'm not saying that in a year or a month, a hundred K dollars. So yeah, like up to a hundred K dollars, they should be like, okay, let me open the money. When you cross a hundred K dollars, whenever you cross it in three years, four years, five years, then you could be like, okay, now scrutinize this person. get the documents out, do this, do that. Because the dollar is coming to your country and it's being saved in PKR. That is good for the economy. That's all I know. What happens in Payoneer is that people get dollars paid. They are stuck in Payoneer. They only withdraw when they need it. Or when they need a expense. The rest of their dollars are stuck in Payoneer or in VICE or outside. So I think Pakistan should really look into enabling this. But unfortunately, they don't. And nothing can be said about it. Our IT Minister, without getting too political, if you remember, I have no interest in politics. So our IT Minister said that PayPal is coming to Pakistan. And that news pissed me off a lot. Because no, it wasn't coming to Pakistan. There was a Payoneer feature that you can pay with PayPal. But that only also works if you submit documentation, blah blah. Freelancer is your business registered. So no, PayPal is not coming to Pakistan. It was fake news, so to say. Moving on. So as I said, No big news this week, but there are a couple of topics I want to touch upon. One of the things I'm keeping a very close eye on recently is Repairable Laptop Company Framework. I just wanted to do a quick exposure, I guess, because a lot of people don't know about this company. Framework is a company that is making laptops in America or Canada, wherever they're based. Which are totally modular. and repairable and they have been in business for a couple of years now. I think two or three years have passed and their laptops seem to be selling well among the enthusiasts. So they have just released a 16-inch laptop. Very performant, very powerful and you know, very good. So just a few little things I want to say about that laptop. Number one thing, 16-inch laptop. Very good, very, like, you know, good size for people who are like veteran laptop users. My only issue is that they have put in GPU support. And I don't think that was a good move. Because most people are not gaming on their laptops. And the gaming laptops itself is a very small niche. And then the gamers are mostly still playing on desktop or on the enthusiast side, they are playing on the desktop. The casual side are also playing on the consoles. Because consoles are just so good value for money nowadays. So 16 inch laptop with a GPU that is replaceable. Very cool idea. But I think that's very impractical and that's gonna bite them. But if we ignore that thing, the laptop is pretty good. It has some build quality issues that were reported and the company said they'll fix it. What does it mean? Like why am I discussing this laptop in Pakistan? If this laptop doesn't come, I would... I don't think I'll ever see it in my hand in real life. The reason I'm discussing this is the second hand market, right? If you live anywhere near... Lahore's Hafiz Center, or Bindi's Dubai Plaza, and in Karachi, I'm sure there are thousands of plazas like this. Where lots of laptops are sold, HP, Dell, your old ThinkPad, old Latitude, old Probooks. You know this, that there is a lot of market for a lot. Because most people who are looking for a laptop, in the range of 40-50 thousand rupees, they just go pick a lot of laptops. And what happens in that is that some small problems are solved. It gets repaired easily because there are a lot of laptops in the market. Someone's part was removed and put in there. And they run decently well for most people. Like I just bought some ThinkPad 4-5 months ago. And they were really good for what they were. Like a laptop worth 50-60 thousand rupees. 8th generation processor. And everything is working on it. Like for a university student or an early stage career professional. 3-4 hours battery life. A very good build quality laptop. Rs. 50-60,000 which is what like $200 is a really good value. Like you don't understand like yes, Rs. 50-60,000 is not less money. But if you compare the prices of technology or the price of the new device and the value that you are getting from that device, that's really valuable. Like I can assure you that this laptop for Rs. 50-60,000 is like, I know it's not a fair comparison, but instead of Rs. 50-60,000, you get a tired phone. Because again, because the phone's values are weird and the second hand market is very low, blah blah. But because in laptops, there is a lot of this scene. There are companies who buy like 1000-2000 units of the same laptop model and then when they use it for 2-3 years, they throw it away. This ecosystem is really thriving and Pakistan's like industry is running in the second hand market of laptops. So this framework laptop, which is modular and replaceable parts of it and they are claiming that you can replace it for 10 years or 15 years. that could eventually become a thing in Pakistan, right? Because let's say, after 8-10 years, I go to the market, the 16-inch laptop of Framework is lying around, I take that for Rs. 40-50,000, I bring it home, and then slowly, I need to upgrade things, I need a new display, I bought that after a while, I need a new keyboard, I need a new trackpad, I need a new USB port, and then there are people who are 3D printing the stuff also, they are selling themselves also, they have their own marketplace. And now they have also done a partnership, a big repair company called IFXIT. Not a repair company, but like a repair oriented company. Who sells parts and stuff. So it just gave me a thought that, okay, right now, you see in the scene of Lord that ThinkPad and Latitudes have covered the market. I think in the next 5-10 years, you can see a company like Framework, whose laptop has a very long life, take over the market and maybe this company becomes like the default. second-hand laptop to buy. You can recommend it to your eyes closed. Because they know it's so bad that no one knows, everything changes. The mentality of Meran, right? Obviously, this is not a cheap laptop, but why is Meran so beloved in our country? Because it repairs the parts of any mechanic. And it happens often times at a low price. Even though Meran is dead, people can't kill it because the value of Meran is very high everywhere. And in the same way, in 10 years, there will be another thing which is WhatsApp cross app messaging. So, Basically, the European Union is now fully spread in the tech world because it is repeatedly passing regulations and strict rules to regulate big companies. So they have this thing called, I believe, the Digital Markets Act, or Digital Marketing Act, I guess, in which they have identified monopolies in different sectors and industries. Okay. For example, Apple has taught the point of view of app development or app store that they are gatekeepers. Gatekeeper is the term they are using. In messaging, I messaged someone and said that no one uses it. But WhatsApp is a gatekeeper. So WhatsApp, I think by the numbers, is used by 2 billion people across the world. It's not that popular in the US, but it's very popular in the rest of the world. WhatsApp, as you may already know. So they're like, okay, we have to bring interoperability to all the gatekeeper apps. So, before the regulation comes, WhatsApp has released the news that we will work with other apps so that you can cross messaging. So basically what that means is that you can message from WhatsApp to Telegram, you can message from Telegram to Signal and vice versa. Again, this is interesting news because often it happens that WhatsApp is a blessing. Don't get me wrong, I use it all day. But it's a little annoying. Now spam messages have started coming on WhatsApp. Like it's the same situation that people get annoyed with SMS. that one work SMS comes, five U-phone ads come, two jazz ads come, I don't have jazz SIMs, and then four bank ads come, then one AC one comes, one computer seller comes, one scam message comes, one of my kids, I don't know where, I have to pay Rs. 10,000 in jail. So SMS became really scammy and spammy. So we came on WhatsApp, calm, no one is bothering us, no one is doing anything. But now WhatsApp business has come, so now WhatsApp has also started, services, online stores, and then yesterday I got a message from someone who was selling a computer, an e-commerce store, a new iPhone is available. What a scene! Thankfully WhatsApp makes it very easy to block unknown numbers. But you get where I'm going, it has become really annoying to use WhatsApp. The same thing is happening with your SMS, it would be really nice if you get cross app messaging. Because that way, I can use something which I know is not spam or scam, like a signal I think. Or even telegram, you can lock down a lot, that would be good too. But not lose the ability to message people who are on WhatsApp. That way I can talk to them, the people I want. But the people I want to save, or I want to be a little secure, because you know, a link came, I clicked by mistake, the phone got hacked. This happens too. So it's really good news. And... I will tell you about another feature later in our Tech Kitot section. Which if you're an Android user, I don't know why you don't use it. You should really use it. Just like Mark Zuckerberg used Apple Vision Pro and after he released a video from his MetaQuest 3 and I think we have discussed this in the previous podcast. So MetaQuest 3 right now is being compared to Apple Vision Pro, even though I don't think there is any comparison, it's a $500 consumer focused, gaming focused device. And a $3500 professional focused, productivity focused, premium device. It is very expensive, but I don't think it is overpriced at all, because it's bomb cost right now, bomb means spill of materials. And $1500 is just the cost of its ingredients. It doesn't matter if we go to a restaurant and they order chicken karahi for Rs.1000, and then your mom or aunt says, oh, I can make this for Rs.150 at home. And then they say, Oh, Bibi, it's not just chicken, right? People have been waiting for the waiter, the table is here, the electricity bill is coming. All those things are put in and the ingredients are usually 20-30% cost. And that's true in the tech world also. Like if the bomb cost is $1500 and they are selling it for $3500, that's actually less than expected. Cause ideally if Apple was there, it would have been a $5000 discount if it was a fully flashed house device. But as I covered in the last episode, this device is more like a beta test device. So they have taken out $3500 by keeping a margin profit less on it. Which is very expensive, don't get me wrong. Like I'm not gonna buy it. Everyone I know is never gonna buy it. But it's not overpriced. It's priced according to what it is. It's a premium headset. Just like their Apple Pro XDR display, which is $5,000. And it has a $1,000 stand. So which was the stupid part. But the display is really awesome. And those who want the quality of that level, 6K or whatever. they take the logo display and they are happy with it. Similarly, Apple Vision Pro, not this version because there are some compromises in it. The next or third or fourth version that will be there, it will be really worth it for people who really want it. But for the most of people, like 90-95%, it will never make sense because it is a premium headset. So when Zuck reviewed it, its line was very famous, I don't just think that Quest is better value, I think Quest is the better product, period. which is again, yes, it is a better product. If you talk about gaming, yes, it is a better product. If you talk about lightweight and comfort, yes, it is a better product. If you talk about price to value, but there are a lot of other aspects where it is not the better product. If you want the best display, it's not the better product. If you want a rich app developer experience, which you know that yes, there is nothing on Apple vision pro, but in the next year or a year and a half, because Apple makes a lot of money, developers have to come. So the Apple ecosystem will be stronger. No question about it. Even though I know that the situation of developers and Apple is going on, but Apple dictates developers cause they create demand and they create a market and people are going to be developing for it. You know, so yeah, like it is a better product, MetaQuest 3 in some aspects. Yes. But in the same way, I can say the same exact line that Apple vision pro is the better product period because you know, uh, better display, better quality hardware, better support. Cause apple support you can't deny is the best. Like Pakistan, like a country where there is no support for any company, Apple has three or four service centers open. Uh, where are they open? You can go to locate.apple.com slash your city. You can google it there. Lahore, Islam, and Karachi have opened a couple. Uh, Are they perfect? No, they are compromised because they are open in Pakistan and again, blame your government. Please don't say anything to those stores. Your government's import restrictions are too much. They don't let the warranty parts come here for free. They charge money and tax on it. But the thing is, Apple pays tax for free warranty parts to send to a country like Pakistan where they are not allowed to give any interest. And where their customer base is not that big. So these all things are a factor to consider when you're investing hundreds of dollars into any product, right? I have an iPhone XS Max, my primary phone is Google Pixel and I use an iPhone XS Max with it. It's a 6 year old phone and it's working fine so far. I haven't repaired it once. It's battery is still at 80% because I use it like a human child, I guess. And so far, everything works on it. In fact, this podcast, backup recording is currently happening on an iPhone XS Max. I'm just saying Apple's products are targeting a certain audience and for them, it will always be the better product. For me, it's not as I mentioned on the last episode and for Zaki Bhai, it's not. But can't just say that as a CEO of a company, our product is the best product, blah, blah. Because that's just disingenuous, right? And talking about disingenuity, Samsung's lineup, I want to talk about that. Just a little bit. S24 came, very good fonts, very good specs, all the reviews out, blah. This time I got a little hot again. BP got high. They then killed that one again. Which is, I think this is not in Ultra. I have been unable to verify because I'm online. I'll put some links in the show notes. But it's so annoying that whenever they release S series, then America, Canada, South Korea, in a couple of countries, they release the Snapdragon model. And then they sell the world's most famous model. For S23, I think they stopped doing that and everyone praised them. That it's a good thing that Samsung is now selling the Snapdragon model to everyone. And then like they said, oh, good, we have got the news, the publicity is good. In S24, they went back to their old habits. And now they're doing everything again the old way. In S24 Ultra, I think Snapdragon. And S24, which is the normal S24, it has the Exynos model, the rest of the world. Now what does it mean to you as a consumer? So my issue, which I wrote in an article, I'll link, you can read that. But the main issue is the longevity. Like I just mentioned, my iPhone XS Max has been running for 6 years. Because it was a flagship device, right? And when I'm buying a flagship device, I expected it to run for at least 5 years. At least 5 years. After 5 years, it's free for me. It has to pay 5 years. Now when you take an Exynos, which is their own chipset, which is not Snapdragon. It has been proven time and time again, it always has 20-30% loss in performance, battery timing, optimization, etc. The list goes on. Now when you take out the phone from the box, the first 6 months, the first year, nothing will happen. Which is fine. If you change the phone every year, you might not notice much difference. The difference starts to be noticed in the second year, third year, fourth year. Where that Snapdragon chip will keep performing because it's a flagship chip. And Exynos chips are fully optimized and there is not much data on it that you can optimize it. Because look, the chips that Snapdragon sells, Exynos doesn't sell that much. Because Samsung, even though it's a big company, Exynos is only in their phones. Whereas Snapdragon is in every Android phone, right? They have way more data points, way more, you know, feedback on how to improve the chipsets year over year. Whereas Samsung, which is only putting Exynos in their phones. can't have that much scale or set of S 24. My dollar is just specific. Existence tip. I forget the exact model. They are like you're paying the same price. Dollar price be same there. But just because you're not in those three or four countries, you're paying for a compromised experience and then you're like Samsung, which is Apple. The bass or you the answer. And again, if it is Snapdragon versus iOS, it's a fair comparison. I can never comfortably suggest anyone to go and get an Exynos or Samsung phone. I'd rather go for like a Pixel phone or a OnePlus phone. Like Pixel has its own chip, which is not as strong as Snapdragon tensor. But it is the same tensor in every Pixel, right? And they have started doing it in the iPhone as well. That the non-Pro model has the chip of last year and the Pro has the chip of the latest model. But it is still Apple's own chip. It's optimized, you know, it's going to be a good experience, right? But Snapdragon versus Exynos, two different builders or manufacturers, if I get an American phone like S24+, then I get Snapdragon, but if I get an Indian phone, then I get Exynos. That is a little BS, I think. So like, yeah, what iPhone is doing is I'm not that mad at them because phones are fast enough and their chips are proven enough. But they're not doing it in the same model. Like, it's not like I'm 15 Pro, I get the latest chip if I get an American phone, but if I get an Indian phone, I get the last year's chip. I think that's just disingenuous. And when they give phones to the reviewers, they always give them a Snapdragon phone. So all the reviews and bookmarks or whatever, benchmarks, sorry not bookmarks, all those Snapdragon phones come on the phone and you know, like we watch those videos and be like, oh, Samsung's phone is very good. And then they don't tell you stuff like, oh, it's not good, if you buy it, you will get an Exynos chip. Or if you buy it, then the features of their Galaxy A.I. have come. They might not even be free forever. You might have to pay a subscription fee after a year or two. And these things are not told like in the release. Just like there was another thing that in the launch of S24, they showed a lot of AI features like photo editing, magic eraser, etc. Which all these features already existed in Pixel and the few features that didn't exist in Circle of Search etc. They came in Pixel the next day. So it turned out that behind the scenes they partnered and built these features together. But the reviewers were like, no this is the phone with the most AI features. They would have waited for a day. Pixel has all the features that were in it. And in Pixel, most probably they will stay free forever. And maybe you'll have to pay a markup two years down the road. But there is one feature on Android for which you should be not paying any markup, which is RCS chat. And this is today's TechKTorque session, if you want. Again, this is our second episode after my return as a single person. I'm saying it again and again. But if you have any feedback or if you have any topic suggestions, questions, please send it to podcast at sknexus.com. In the last episode, I got some feedback that the Apple Vision Pro segment was very long, 20 minutes long. And yeah, it was. And the bad job I did was that I didn't divide it up properly because there were actually two segments. One was about the Apple Vision Pro and the other was about the Apple Vision Pro in Pakistan. What are its implications? Those were two very different segments. But because you know, I'm still new to this. And I haven't trained myself properly to do a segment from one topic to another topic. It felt like it was a 20 minute topic. I think what I should have done in retrospect, that I would have covered Apple Vision Pro in one episode, and then in the second episode, I would have covered Vision Pro in Pakistan. But since I'm moving and I'm very busy these one or two weeks, it's been kind of hard to record everything. Hopefully it will get better with episodes coming soon. Again, if you have any feedback. send to podcast at sknexus.com. Yeah. Coming back to the point I was making, okay. Okay. Click on it and turn it on and forget it. What basically that is, for all you need to know, that the iMessage that happens on the iPhone, which is a kind of WhatsApp combined with SMS, so if you message an iPhone to an iPhone user, then that iMessage is converted into a blue bubble over the internet. Just like WhatsApp, you can send images, videos, which you can't do in SMS. Similarly, this feature has been in Android for the last 3 years. And what pisses me off is that everyone has an Android phone, but no one turns it on. I know that Google used to turn it on by default in the new phones that are coming out, so I have seen that some people have turned it on. But please, if you have an older phone or this feature is not turned on by default, go and turn it on. The reason being, like, I will tell you a very common use case. If something comes from a mobile delivery guy, yes, give me your location, WhatsApp me. Now I will first open his phone app, I will take out his number, I will save it in contact, Delivery Rider 123X5. I'll put my name and then I'll wait for WhatsApp to sync. Then I'll start chatting with him. Then I'll message him, yes, brother, come here. This is my house photo. This address. If the chat feature was on, then I would have messaged him on his call. Chat features would have been enabled on his phone and mine too. I could have sent location there, there I could have sent image, text, anything. And I don't have to do all the work to put it in my contact list. And now at the end of the month, 40 contacts have been added. Delivery driver 1, delivery driver 2, Ford, Panda, Daraaz. There's just one use case. There are many more benefits to this. Like we discussed earlier, I don't want to use WhatsApp much. So if everyone comes to the default thing, which is built in your phone, you don't have to add to contacts or anything like that. That would be much nicer in my opinion. Obviously it's not as powerful as WhatsApp. There are many features on WhatsApp that are not present in this. But for people I don't want to talk to on WhatsApp, it is a perfectly good alternative. So yeah, go to Android and enable chat features. The more people you enable, the more awareness you spread, the more people will get off WhatsApp. And then WhatsApp will be a safe space, scam free, right? Like this episode was. So as always, thank you for listening. And once more, please send any questions or feedback to podcast at sknexus.com. See you next night.

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